It's a concept of progress that it separates us from life and from each other which are the things that make life enjoyable and meaningful and so that's what you saw with those kids and i saw with you know kids in in india and elsewhere is like yeah they don't have a lot of the stuff we have but the stuff we have is really heavy yeah totally you know and now with the phones yeah right and we see kids are separated from each other by these screens and then they're all you know the suicide rates are up depression is up the self-harm is up addiction is up like obviously you know now we've been with them long enough to to really have some data i'm sure you know about tristan harris's work and other people no i don't he was an ethicist at google he's uh i think he's got a double phd from stanford in computer science and philosophy,
So he was the in-house ethicist at google which is a funny funny thing but anyway he quit because he realized like that you know the technology these apps they're not new oh yes i know the guy yeah yeah he's done a few doc i think he has a netflix talk yeah yeah terrifying yeah anyway so the whole point is you know you've got a kid looking at the phone and on the other side of that phone are 100 engineers and psychologists working to drain the life out of that kid to drain the attention to drain the time that's the world we live in so those kids in india they're not dealing with that at least they weren't when i first went there yeah that's funny it's that thing where with technology where you think you're buying into a product unbeknownst to you you are the product your mind and its stickiness and attachments for you know excitement comfort dopamine connection whatever,
It is actually creating a product out of you it's so bizarre now right you're sitting in a room you talk about i really you know your case may be i want to get get this new sleeping bag the abc sleeping bag it looks really cool for my road trips and the next day you start being fed those ads right yeah i mean it's spooky yeah they're getting in your head i i mean i think that we're in this bizarre moment where i mean i don't know this might sound a little conspiracy theorist but i think that machines are learning to be human i think that's what's going on that's with all this debt what all this data mining is about it's not just to sell us it's to become us the transhumanism agenda yeah absolutely yeah there's a difference in weakening us in the process right they're getting stronger we're getting weaker,
Obviously i like to use the term conspiracy analysis analysis right or analyst versus theorist right because you can have a theory or something but there that means that you're saying there might be a conspiracy here an analyst is someone who says it's already we've already seen there is a conspiracy right right and i'm just analyzing it i'm just analyzing it and exploring it and then looking into it you know the weird thing is i don't think i mean strictly speaking i don't really think it's a conspiracy because because the conspiracy is a group of people get together and decide they're going to do something right right i don't think anyone's decided to do this i think that that institutions are a life form and we just haven't recognized it yet because we're embedded within them,
I think corporations are living things they're very alien to us and hard to recognize but they've convinced us to even give them religious rights give them political power give them movement and they can disappear and reappear elsewhere they're psychopaths but we've like invented them somehow but in a way that you know bees invented a hive but nobody was like there was no albert einstein b that was like what we need to do is create a hive i got an idea that's a good point there's no you know termite architect the the mound just happens somehow there's an emergent intelligence we call it emergent intelligence it could also be emergent ignorance and i think we're in this point now where some people are starting to look around,
And say like we're working against our own interests this makes no sense it makes no sense for a biological entity on planet earth to be all over it destroying the the systems that support human life and all other life and yet we're doing it we're doing it at an increasing pace even though we see the destruction in our face we're still doing it and to me that's like a school of salmon swimming right into the net like you see the net but the school's going that way so here we go well this idea of uh a corporation being a living thing i mean it's right in the word right the the corporate yeah incorporate it to to be alive to have a body right so there's kind of a hive mind body of corporations and i think i think that's where it gets interesting with this idea of you know a conspiracy theorist thinking that evil google is out to get us right,
Then you think well surely not everyone in the corporation has nefarious intentions you know right my uncle works in the cia is a great guy right right but due to this kind of pyramidal structure of these entities these organizations it's just inherent that not everyone within it is going to know what's going on from the directive and as you indicate sometimes the directive isn't even known you're just kind of like hurling forward and the hive is built and everyone's going how did we get here like the guy that defected from google i'm sure when he went in there yeah he wasn't one of the baddies you know one of the reptilians or whatever he just you know he's good at what he does he gets a good gig and then later on realizes oh look what we're building i'm out yeah and he's one of the few who was able to get out he doesn't have kids a mortgage,
You know right the whole thing i mean i thought it was an interesting moment i don't know if you remember but in the early days of google their logo said don't be evil and at some point they had a meeting of the board of directors and they said we got to take that down right don't be evil can't be our our slogan anymore why wow i mean what a weird i would have loved to have been there for that meeting you know or at least not to we kind of need to be a little evil guys at least replace it with the inverse reality of you know be altruistic or something yeah no we're just going to take the whole thing away and just pretend that everyone happens.
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